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提問者:Namaskaram(印度的見面招呼詞)。什麼是小我?我們要如何摧毀小我呢?

QUESTION: Namaskaram. What is ego? And how do we go about destroying it?

 

薩古魯:”小我”不是某件因為你做了什麼好事或變得有錢、美麗或其它類似的事而得到的東西。當你在母親的子宮裡開始踢腿的那一刻,小我就誕生了;第一次錯誤地認同於你的身體時就是小我誕生的時刻。認同這個小小的身體其實是一種保護機制,這個小小小小的生物體必須在這個你無法覺知到起點與終點的大大大大的存在中生存,基於生存需要,你把自己投射成重要大人物,由此小我誕生了,它是你為了生存而創造出來的幻象。什麼是小我?它就像你的影子,在你擁有身體的那一刻,你就有了影子,影子本身並無好壞之分。如果太陽在正上方,你會有個小影子,如果太陽落到這裡,你會有一英里長的影子,無論外在的情況如何,你有的就是這樣的影子,你的小我也是類似的情況。

SADHGURU: “Ego” is not something that you got because you did something well or because you became rich or beautiful or anything else. When you started kicking in your mother’s womb, the ego was born. The very first mistake of getting identified with your physical body means the ego was born. It is a defense mechanism. You got identified with this little body. This little organism has to survive in this vast existence of which you have no perception to even know where it begins and where it ends. Just to survive, you have to project yourself like a big man. So the ego is born. It is a false reality you created just for the sake of survival.So what is ego? It is like your shadow. The moment you have a physical body, you have a shadow. The shadow itself is neither good nor bad. If the sun is up there, you have a little shadow. If the sun is down there, you have a mile-long shadow. Whichever way the outside situation demands, that is the kind of shadow you have. That is also the kind of ego you should have.

 

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你也許聽過這個詞”vairagya”,”raga”意思是顏色,”Vai”表示超越,”vairag”意味超越顏色,你變成透明的!假如你變成透明,如果在你後面的是紅色,你也變成紅色,如果在你後面的是藍色,你也變成藍色,如果在你面的是黃色,你也變成黃色。你沒有偏見,無論你在哪裡,你都變成那裏的一部份,但沒有任何東西可以附著於你。只有當你變這樣,只有當你是透明的,你才能放膽地在生活中探索生命的每一緯度、層面。我們需要不同的身分來應對生活中的不同情況,假如你對生命全然敞開,假如你可以優雅地從這身分轉換到另一身分,你可以精準地扮演好你的角色,你的小我不會造成任何問題。但目前的問題在你太過於認同你的小我,你開始相信你就是它。一旦你相信”我就是影子”,你會作什麼?你自然地會俯趴在地上!假如你在地上爬行,你的生活會變得怎樣?如果我們在地上鋪上地毯,你會爬得很舒適,但不至於喜悅,如果地上冒出石頭、砂礫和荊棘呢?你會哭!這就是你的生活現狀。假如外在情況如鋪上地毯般舒適,你會爬得很舒服,假如冒出些如荊棘般的挫折,你會哭喊,只因你在地上爬行!

You may have heard the word "vairagya". “Raga,” means color. "Vai" means beyond. “Vairag,” means beyond color, you have become transparent. If you have become transparent, if what is behind you is red, you turn red too. If what is behind you is blue, you turn blue too. If what is behind you is yellow, you turn yellow too. You are unprejudiced. Wherever you are, you become a part of that, but nothing sticks to you. Only if you are like this, only if you are in a state of Vairag, then you will dare to explore all dimensions of life when you live here.To handle different kinds of situations in our lives, we need different kinds of identities. If you are fluid about it, if you can change from one to another gracefully, then you can play your role to the hilt and still have no problem with it. But right now the problem is you get so identified with it, you start believing you are that. Once you believe “I am the shadow”, what would you do? You would naturally crawl upon the earth. If you crawl upon the earth, how will life be? If we carpet the floor, you will crawl in comfort, not in joy. Suppose stones and rocks and thorns came? Then you will cry. That is how your life is going on right now. If the outside situation is carpeted, you will crawl in comfort. If little thorns come, you will cry because you are crawling upon the earth.

 

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現在你所有的生命經驗都侷限在身體/物質層面,任何經由你的五官所接收到的都屬於身體/物質層面。物質本身並沒有任何目的性,它就如水果的果皮般地存在著。果皮就只是水果的保護外層,身體之所以重要也是因為有某樣東西在裡面,你還未體驗那個某樣東西,假如那個某樣東西明早離開了,到時沒有人會想碰觸那個已經變成屍體的身體。所以,今天當它還在的時候,我們必須去關注它。假如我們不超越身體的限制,假如我們不超越物質的有限存在,那生命將只是一場掙扎。如果外在情況很順心如意,你會非常有自信,如果外在情況沒那麼順利,你的自信就動搖了。就如你所知道的,不論現在情況是如何的好,它都可能在任何一刻變糟。這並不是關於變糟的問題,生命總是充滿著變數,事情隨時都可能往你不喜歡的方向發展。假如全世界都與你作對,你仍可以不受影響地度過這一生,且內在充盈著寧靜與喜悅,那麼你會了知生命的運作方式。不然你只能是身體的奴隸。

Right now your whole experience of life is limited to the physical. Everything that you know through your five sense perceptions is physical. The physical has no purpose of its own, it is there only as a peel to the fruit. The peel means something only as a protective layer to the fruit. This body is important because there is something else inside. You have never experienced that something else. If that something else goes away tomorrow morning, nobody would want to touch this body which would have become a corpse. So, today when it is there, we have to take care of it.If we do not transcend the limitations of the physical, if we do not transcend the limited existence of the physical, then life will only be a struggle. If situations go well, you are very confident. If situations do not go well, you are diffident. And you always know, whatever situations are going well, any moment, things can go wrong. It is not even a question of going wrong. Life can just take any course any moment. Things can happen in a way that you do not like, any moment.If everything in the world is going dead wrong for you, and you can still go through this life untouched, peacefully and joyfully within yourself, then you know life the way it is. Otherwise you are just a slave of the physical.

 

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今天,世界上有太多關於”摧毀小我”的不必要的討論仍在持續著,這些言論是從經典中摘選出來的,只要你的個性變得醜陋,你就稱它為”小我”,這只是推卸責任的一種方式。當你的個性變得醜陋時,你必須將它視為你自己,假如你看到,”我很醜陋”,你就會對此採取補救,並不再重蹈覆轍。但我們發展出各種方式來閃躲這種改正的可能性。任何時候,不論你是美麗或醜陋的,那就是你,不是嗎? 保持這樣的認知,不要再創造那些不存在的—你的小我、你的真我或其它類似的說詞,當你開始創造諸如”我的美善就是我的真我,我的醜陋就是我的小我”的想法時,就失去了轉化的可能。假如你看到”不論我再講多少廢話瞎扯,那個內在的美麗我和內在的醜陋我,其實都是我啊!”然後,醜陋的那一面自然而然地就會開始改變--你不得不開始轉化。

Today, there is too much unnecessary talk going on in the world about destroying the ego. This has been picked up from the scriptures. Whenever your personality turns ugly, you call it ego. This is just one more way of passing the buck. When your personality turns ugly, you must just see it as you. If you see, “I am ugly,” you will want to do something about it. You would not want to be that way anymore.But we have evolved so many strategies just to avoid this possibility. At a certain moment, whether you are beautiful or ugly, it is you, isn’t it? Keep it that way. Don’t create things which are not there – your ego, your atman, or something else. The moment you create things like “What is beautiful is my atman, what is ugly is my ego,” no transformation will be possible. If you see: “Whatever nonsense I am, that which is beautiful and that which is ugly in me are both me,” then, what is ugly will naturally start changing – you will have to transform, you can’t help it.

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在今天這個世界,我們需要帶進簡單的覺知—生命的覺知。現在這一刻,大多數人只有自我/小我的覺知,他們沒有生命的覺知,他們對自我很敏感,而不是對生命敏感,當你變這樣時,你只視自己為生命,其它的都不是生命,你會隨意踐踏任何人、任何事。但如果你對生命敏感,在你的體驗裡萬物都是生命,你自然而然地會有覺知地與周圍所有的生命互動,假如你變得對生命敏感,那麼小我就不再是個問題了。

Today in the world, we need to bring about simple sense – life sense. Right now, people only have ego sense, they have no life sense. They are ego sensitive, not life sensitive. When you are like this, you only see yourself as life, no one else is life. You can trample upon anything and anyone. But if you are life sensitive, everything is life in your experience, so you naturally behave very sensibly with every other life around you. The ego will no longer be a problem if you become life sensitive.

 

愛與恩典

薩古魯

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